Let's talk "morality."

[PMB]

Maybe, just maybe, if we could start living today and into the future, without holding the past as our current faults and practice. Just maybe if we start acting like respectable people that respect others views, we could move on with life.

Tearing down history(statues/plaques etc) is racist and bigotry in it's finest in my opinion. Granted, there are probably a couple, or more, that doesn't quite fit for historical purpose, but to teardown our written an paved past for faults years an years an years ago.....
Tearing down a statue because it invites violence an gives bad people a reason, won't change a bad person, taint happening. All it does generate animosity and resentment for the bad people.

But, if you're going after one or more statues, tear every damn one of them down. Rename all dedicated schools, roads, parks and stadiums into some generic non gender descriptive name and while we're at it, destroy and rewrite history books. Hmmmm, sounds vaguely familiar, just can't remember what it was....

Years ago me an the wife were, still are, good friends with a family that some would say of color. They moved a few years ago back east to be with family.
She would make sun tea the way her grandmother an mom taught her, hung by a rope off the porch. They called it kkk tea an giggled an laughed at me because I was uncomfortable to say what she called it, I called it sun tea instead of what they called it.
Their relatives were slaves. Their heritage was slavery, but it didn't define them today, BUT they never forgot were they came from and their history. Both of them were damn proud of their history, an rightfully so.
She openly talked about the struggles told to her by her grandparents of her great-grandparents. She/they, weren't in any way in belief that color separated us, it was in the past and there are bad people of every color. Just don't associate with bad people and I doesn't matter what color or beliefs you have.
We did a lot together, they are good people.
Still chat on occasion, though probably not enough. Hopefully we'll take them up to house us for a few days so the wives can relax on the beach while Mr fancy pants accountant an I have some sun tea an talk about all the idiots destroying our past.

I don't care what you are, what your past is or what you believe in, if you are a bad person I just won't associate with you. Makes life so much easier.

Excellent story.

[Sinus211]

What's the next topic LC? Ethics?

[Old Growth]

Lawyer starts thread about morality. Lol.

And also one about online hooking/dating.



(I chuckle a bit!)

[jukk0u]

a-a-nd back to the topic.... life has winners and losers. I often wonder about/at who's neck am I standing upon to get this meal or that pair of shoes....

[OhShoot!]

Mor-al-I-WHat?? I'm not even sure what that word means.

[old11bravo]

Mor-al-I-WHat?? I'm not even sure what that word means.

It means you have to put the toilet seat down after you go pee or the ladies of the house will test your mortality.

[os2firefox]

Mor-al-I-WHat?? I'm not even sure what that word means.

It means you have to put the toilet seat down after you go pee or the ladies of the house will test your mortality.

I put the seat down now, but I'm still yelled at because there is pee on the seat now. There is just no pleasing them...

[Mediumrarechicken]

Mor-al-I-WHat?? I'm not even sure what that word means.

It means you have to put the toilet seat down after you go pee or the ladies of the house will test your mortality.

I put the seat down now, but I'm still yelled at because there is pee on the seat now. There is just no pleasing them...

Leave some tp with poo on it on the back of the toilet seat and they will forget about the pee. Fact

[Blaze.45]

Not digging the "look at how you have clothing that you didn't make yourself, look at you buying non-domestic gasoline... you're no better than the white supremacists" theme.

Being born as an American does not put "blood on my hands"...
Guilt trips are immoral.

Morality is opinion. It's all internal and unfortunately often sways with popular opinion.

[MadPick]

Interesting topic.

So, let's just understand that we are all imperfect, and move forward without tearing down our nation.

Yup. And I agree with your examples in the OP. I've learned that it's not possible to always be "right"; we end up compromising for a number of different reasons.

One example is abortion. I think it's fundamentally immoral to abort a healthy baby, but given the reality of life on this earth I am in favor of abortion rights. So yeah, maybe I'm immoral in that regard, and others as well.

[leadcounsel]

Not digging the "look at how you have clothing that you didn't make yourself, look at you buying non-domestic gasoline... you're no better than the white supremacists" theme.

Being born as an American does not put "blood on my hands"...
Guilt trips are immoral.

Morality is opinion. It's all internal and unfortunately often sways with popular opinion.

I think you missed the point by a mile.

[Blaze.45]

Actually I see the same thing in a different way. I understand the kumbaya general point of how no one is perfect and we are all flawed so we shouldn't pass judgement and destroy statues and shit etc etc, not hard to get. I just added that today's taboo subjects like gay marriage and abortion has a "right" and "wrong" side only because of popular opinion. This was speaking more to your point of how MLK's homophobia is now on the wrong side of history... but I submit that back in his day that way of thinking WAS seen as the moral high ground, controlled by popular opinion. In the last 20 years we've seen popular opinion shift dramatically towards pro-choice... and some call it the new moral high ground, to which I say bullshit.

The moral high ground is to never pass judgement in the first place. Concentrate on your own shit and stop trying to control people.

In short we're saying the same thing, lets not pass judgement and start taking away each other's rights or destroy shit... but where we differ is that I blame popular opinion and mob mentality for twisting morality into their own definition, then proceed to force it upon others.