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Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:15 am

https://www.city-journal.org/html/provo ... 15400.html

For those unfamiliar, the Southern Poverty Law Center is an organization that tracks "hate groups." They also openly state that their mission is to destroy these hate groups.
Now if, if that were truly limited to legitimize hate groups like the Klan or the Panthers that would be admirable. However they have lost their way and in essence turned into a weapon of the left labeling anyone who disagrees with liberal politics as a hater or "exteremist" (the second label if they can't find a 'hate' label to stick on).

Among other things they:
-have grossly inflated their salaries and expenditures on lavish vacations, company functions and grotesque lobbying which calla into question their tax status
-are hiding vast sums of money in offshore accounts in tax-havens
-ignore truly racist groups like La-Raza, BLM, BP (not to be confused with NBPP)
-label anyone who disagrees with punishing apostasy, oppression of women, female genital mutilation or other aspects of Sharia Law as an "Islamophobe"
-label conservative organizations that believe in traditional marriage as "homophobic" despite giving a pass to Islamic organizations that believe that way
-label most 2nd amendment organizations as "extremist hate groups" and assume ALL militias are "white supermacists," even ones with non-white leaders...

Etc.

It was notable that even during the Obama administration the FBI dropped their association with the SPLC due to their increasing politicization (although some supporters argue they just got kicked off a website, it actually went deeper than that). Also, some people are beginning to fight back against the SPLC's labeling and their legal bills for defemation lawsuits are starting to stack up with several high profile losses in courts and now a mountain of settlements they are beginning to grudgingly choose due to those losses.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:20 am

Ya, they don't really monitor hate groups at all.

From their website:

"Hatewatch monitors and exposes the activities of the American radical right."

I always figured they were a shakedown outfit like Jesse and Al.
Slide them a nice check and they will leave you alone.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:10 am

For a clarification, these are the people who qualified this as a hate symbol:
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Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:42 pm

Even though Jihadwatch does a great job at calling out and prites ting female genital mutilation, honor killings, and other horrific elements of Sharia Law that all decent people can agree are wrong, the SPLC, with help from George Soros, initiated an email campaign to get PayPal to cut off Jihadwatch.org's PayPal fundraising capabilities.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/boyc ... ihad-watch

Just remember that SPLC (and George Soros) stand on the side of female genital mutilation, apostasy murders and honor killings.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:12 am

Interesting piece that even the Slimes was forced to publish by a former Muslim who speaks out against groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda on how the SPLC is targeting anyone who dares to speak out against Islamic extremism, even people who were murdered for it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/opin ... islam.html

While I don't agree with all of her assertions, she raises some interesting points that the death-toll from Islamic terrorism has been infinitely higher than other hate groups, the SPLC is not only silent on it, they attack anyone who calls attention to the body count and oppression of women and apostates.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:44 am

It's really just a modern liberal controlled black list.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:01 pm

The past few years have really opened my eyes to the bias in this country.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:20 pm

PMB wrote:The past few years have really opened my eyes to the bias in this country.


It's pretty terrible. And yet they deny it. Fascinating watching how far they will push it. Some liberals actually believe they have the "right" (and obligation) to shut down some opinions, some speech. Hate speech must go!

Guess who defines hate speech?

I'm digging like a mad man in the Constitution for that clause, but I'm sure a liberal judge will find it before me.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:28 pm

In spite of ABCBSNBCNN reporting on 'hate speech", there IS NO hate speech. There is offensive speech, which is WHY we have the 1st Amendment. SC has held forever that "offensive speech is protected speech".

The Supreme Court case that most defines this issue is Brandenburg vs. Ohio. The operative concept is imminent danger occurring now.


The SPLC ignores it, judge for yourself.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/395/444

Appellant, a Ku Klux Klan leader, was convicted under the Ohio Criminal Syndicalism statute for

advocat[ing] . . . the duty, necessity, or propriety of crime, sabotage, violence, or unlawful methods of terrorism as a means of accomplishing industrial or political reform

and for

voluntarily assembl[ing] with any society, group or assemblage of persons formed to teach or advocate the doctrines of criminal syndicalism.

Neither the indictment nor the trial judge's instructions refined the statute's definition of the crime in terms of mere advocacy not distinguished from incitement to imminent lawless action.

Held: Since the statute, by its words and as applied, purports to punish mere advocacy and to forbid, on pain of criminal punishment, assembly with others merely to advocate the described type of action, it falls within the condemnation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments. Freedoms of speech and press do not permit a State to forbid advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action. Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357, overruled.

Reversed.

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:17 pm

Are you referring to the Black Panther Party or the New Black Panther Party?

Re: Good article on how SPLC has degraded over the years

Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:35 am

dreadi wrote:Are you referring to the Black Panther Party or the New Black Panther Party?

The NBPP While the SPLC occasionally admits the NBPP constitute a hate group, they go on and off their lists which is BS.
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