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Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:18 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/19/us/uss-indianapolis-wreckage-found/index.htmlThe men who were lucky enough to survive the Japanese torpedo attack went through tortured hell, in doing so. Eternal respect to one and all who served and all who serve currently.
"We delivered the bomb"...
Quint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HYxqOqkSsY
Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:42 pm
I read the book, In Harms Way while deployed to Iraq in 2014. Its an incredible story. The Captain of the Indianapolis, Charles McVay, was the only U.S. Navy captain to receive a court martial for losing his vessel to enemy action. Although he was later cleared of wrongdoing and retired from the Navy, the incident weighed heavily on him for the rest of his life. It didn't help that some of the families of sailors lost in the incident would send him "greeting cards" during holiday season with horrible messages, blaming him for the death of their loved ones. Admiral McVay eventually committed suicide at the age of 70, using his service issued pistol.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:55 pm
If you have streampix with your comcast service there is a documentary and they talk to many of the survivors.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:24 pm
My uncle survived being torpedoed three times in WW II and he was in the Army! (troop ships).
He took the ferry to Mackinac Island with us in the 70's, but don't recall him being into boats.
I read some of my dad's sea story books about people being torpedoed in WW I and II.
Men blown apart, men trapped inside a sinking ship, burning fuel in the water, sounded like Hell.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:26 pm
My only input is to avoid the movie with the same name, Indianapolis with Nick Cage. A big sticking turd of a film.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:37 pm
Nick Cage is the key word here.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:42 pm
I think the last thing I liked Nick Cage in was Raising Arizona back in the 80's.
Different ship entirely.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:10 pm
Olympia173 wrote:I read the book, In Harms Way while deployed to Iraq in 2014. Its an incredible story. The Captain of the Indianapolis, Charles McVay, was the only U.S. Navy captain to receive a court martial for losing his vessel to enemy action. Although he was later cleared of wrongdoing and retired from the Navy, the incident weighed heavily on him for the rest of his life. It didn't help that some of the families of sailors lost in the incident would send him "greeting cards" during holiday season with horrible messages, blaming him for the death of their loved ones. Admiral McVay eventually committed suicide at the age of 70, using his service issued pistol.
^^^ This x1000. Doug Stanton's book can't be oversold -- it's a genius combination of outstanding research and outstanding writing built around an extraordinary event. Even if you're only occasionally inclined to read nonfiction,
In Harm's Way should be on your list.
Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:25 pm
but do we let paul allen finger fuck everything. or just leave it be and honor the men who died?
Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:51 am
There are very strict laws that will prevent anyone from doing anything sacrilegious to it. The story of this tragedy is intense.
Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:35 am
mcyclonegt wrote:There are very strict laws that will prevent anyone from doing anything sacrilegious to it. The story of this tragedy is intense.
This.
Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:01 am
Pablo wrote:mcyclonegt wrote:There are very strict laws that will prevent anyone from doing anything sacrilegious to it. The story of this tragedy is intense.
This.
The important thing is that these are maritime grave sites and should not be disturbed in any way. Much like the USS Arizona and countless other wrecks from the US, British, Dutch, German, Russian, and Japanese navies, the soldiers who died in these vessels should be allowed to rest in eternal peace.
The UK passed the Protection of Military Remains Act of 1986 and the US passed the Sunken Military Craft Act of 2004 to protect wartime wrecks. Most wrecks are effectively protected by virtue of their great depth but plundering and scrapping do occur.
Most recently press coverage was given to the virtual disappearance of several British WWII wrecks in Indonesia resulting from surface action with the IJN early in the war. The HMS Exeter and HMS Encounter have been almost completely plundered for scrap metal along with several vessels of the Dutch navy of the same time period.
https://www.livescience.com/56965-wwii-shipwrecks-vanish-after-illegal-plundering.html
Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:21 am
Guntrader wrote:I think the last thing I liked Nick Cage in was Raising Arizona back in the 80's.
Different ship entirely.
Lords of War..
Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:23 am
GeekWithGuns wrote:Pablo wrote:mcyclonegt wrote:There are very strict laws that will prevent anyone from doing anything sacrilegious to it. The story of this tragedy is intense.
This.
The important thing is that these are maritime grave sites and should not be disturbed in any way. Much like the USS Arizona and countless other wrecks from the US, British, Dutch, German, Russian, and Japanese navies, the soldiers who died in these vessels should be allowed to rest in eternal peace.
The UK passed the Protection of Military Remains Act of 1986 and the US passed the Sunken Military Craft Act of 2004 to protect wartime wrecks. Most wrecks are effectively protected by virtue of their great depth but plundering and scrapping do occur.
Most recently press coverage was given to the virtual disappearance of several British WWII wrecks in Indonesia resulting from surface action with the IJN early in the war. The HMS Exeter and HMS Encounter have been almost completely plundered for scrap metal along with several vessels of the Dutch navy of the same time period.
https://www.livescience.com/56965-wwii-shipwrecks-vanish-after-illegal-plundering.html
I think the fact it is at about 18,000 ft underwater will be a pretty good deterrent.
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