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Re: Does an old wall hanger need ffl transfer?

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:35 am
by MadPick
leadcounsel wrote:
MadPick wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:IIRC, doesn't 594 say functioning firearms? remove firing pin = non functioning.


Yup, another option. Go with the WA definition of "firearm," and if it doesn't fire a projectile then it's not a firearm.


If you want to be fully compliant with the law then I do not believe you can circumvent it by making an easy alteration to make a gun momentarily non-functioning.

Let's take a simple example. A stripped AR15 lower is not functioning as anything other than a paperweight but within say an hour of assembly it can be a functioning firearm. See my point?


Oh, I agree and I wasn't suggesting *temporarily* disabling the gun. What I was thinking was that if it's a wall hanger anyhow and will never be shot, the firing pin (or another part) could be discarded, and the gun then transferred without a background check.

Re: Does an old wall hanger need ffl transfer?

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:16 pm
by leadcounsel
Well, it needs a transfer or to be permanently ruined so economical options are probably pretty limited.

1. Transfer is $15-30 and doesn't require ruining it.
2. Apply for C&R, which is $30 for 3 years. Will take a couple months to get it, and then you have it and it can be transferred without ruining it or an FFL cost, so the cost is a wash
3. Spend time/energy ruining the gun. Maybe pour cement down the barrel, flash weld it shut or weld in other spots, cut off the trigger, plug it with molten metal, etc. Seems this both ruins the history of the gun, and costs more time/energy than the other options.

If the seller is patient with waiting, I'd get the C&R as the most cost effective way of beating the system! And then I'd buy up a pile of C&Rs as a "FU" to the system.