Berkeley police allowed Antifa anarchists to assault people

[cmica]

fuck it............blame the pussies

[Pablo]

Oh, I was sick of it about the time the Tea Party popped up...but I've mostly kept it to myself. These days I've gotten a little less patient with my distaste for the rampant hypocritical behavior that has become so common.

...actually - I take that back, I just don't put up with Nazis or Nazi apologists/collaborators. We fought a war against them and my grandmother barely escaped from the Holocaust...so, I think I'll continue to politely push back on the narrative that Antifa is so radically out of line. Are they dumb as fuck? Sure. But let's be clear - there are fucking Nazis marching in the streets with torches and people want to talk about the dumb fucks in Antifa.

Sorry...ain't no body got time for that.

I am calling bullshit on your keeping to yourself. The bottom line it appears that you have little room for opinions that differ from your own and your first reaction is to post something different, call the people names and leave. This isn't personal it is just an observation.

As for people who oppose antifa - did you just label them Nazi sympathizers? I need an answer to this.

[Alpine]

Back on topic.

Looks like after the leftist Antifa Fascists caused violence, the mayor, Jesse "Neville" Arreguin wants the conservative Free Speech Week event canceled because... S A F E T Y.

Funny how that only applies to speech of a certain political slant.

https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.c ... tives/amp/

Also, even if it goes ahead, "free speech" isn't "free" as Berkeley is now charging a whopping $15,000.00 per speaker that shows up, of course only for non-liberal speakers...

[WaJim]

Back on topic.

Also, even if it goes ahead, "free speech" isn't "free" as Berkeley is now charging a whopping $15,000.00 per speaker that shows up, of course only for non-liberal speakers...

I really don't think 99.9% of the Antifa crowd really know what a Fascist is....therefore don't know what/how an anti-fascist should act.


Oh and IBTL

[OhShoot!]

the Democrats have really ruined your lives. I have to read about it every fucking day. sheesh

Are you guys sick of the political bickering and in fighting yet? I am.

Basically restating what I meant.

[L_O_G]

Again...personal attacks - thanks guys. So much for the CoC and being a "community."

Have a good evening!

The first personal attack in this thread was this:

"Nah...just being patriotic but you guys keep on truckin'."

You called everyone else unpatriotic, then ducked.

Your usual whack-a-mole style.

Then want to claim victim.

[Alpine]

Oh and IBTL

I specifically requested that any specific people violating the CoC be individually dealt with rather than shutting down the discussion with a broad brush.

Ironic that failure to do so would be similar to the speech suppression that is now going on at Berkeley.

[WaJim]

Oh and IBTL

I specifically requested that any specific people violating the CoC be individually dealt with rather than shutting down the discussion with a broad brush.

Ironic that failure to do so would be similar to the speech suppression that is now going on at Berkeley.

I'm late to the party but I've yet to see a personal attack.....

Have we migrated that far touchy left that simply "Checking Out" of the conversation is considered a COC violation.?

If so I better watch my step...

[PMB]

Also, even if it goes ahead, "free speech" isn't "free" as Berkeley is now charging a whopping $15,000.00 per speaker that shows up, of course only for non-liberal speakers...

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/25/b ... ech-campus
I had to look that up. If possible, include a link with something that outrageous please.

It seems like very few people are willing to make a solid effort at looking at both sides with an even hand.
Instead, it seems like a side is chosen - and that side can do almost no wrong while the opposing side is full of baby-killing fascists bent on tearing the Constitution apart and replacing it with a system of prison camps.

I think it comes as no surprise that many college and university campuses have turned into hysterical bubbles.
Solutions?
() infiltrate the entire university system with profs with different viewpoints? Not going to happen in my lifetime.
() find some way to cause the courts to recognize the disparity between free speech for the left and the right and force the unis to treat both sides equally?
() Keep rousing up the base and make sure that we have enough pitchforks and hay/tar torches ready. Both sides are doing that right now.

[mislabeled]

Oh, I was sick of it about the time the Tea Party popped up...but I've mostly kept it to myself. These days I've gotten a little less patient with my distaste for the rampant hypocritical behavior that has become so common.

...actually - I take that back, I just don't put up with Nazis or Nazi apologists/collaborators. We fought a war against them and my grandmother barely escaped from the Holocaust...so, I think I'll continue to politely push back on the narrative that Antifa is so radically out of line. Are they dumb as fuck? Sure. But let's be clear - there are fucking Nazis marching in the streets with torches and people want to talk about the dumb fucks in Antifa.

Sorry...ain't no body got time for that.

I am calling bullshit on your keeping to yourself. The bottom line it appears that you have little room for opinions that differ from your own and your first reaction is to post something different, call the people names and leave. This isn't personal it is just an observation.

As for people who oppose antifa - did you just label them Nazi sympathizers? I need an answer to this.

Ditto. Because that's a big ole brush and basically puts the entire WaGuns community into the Nazi sympathizer camp. I think a bunch of us would dispute that label.

[Pablo]

I think this sums it up: http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/natio ... zis-video/

[L_O_G]

I voted for Trump, I come from a bi-racial family and I am the farthest thing from a Nazi. My Wifes Grandfather fought in WW2, just had his 95th birthday and he voted for Trump. So a guy that fought the Nazis apparently now is a Nazi himself?

I'd love for someone to tell him that.

[RENCORP]

As a great Wa Guns member used to say when looking at a cluster of fuck..............

PENIS.

A big shout out to BHPDrew.

[wklink]

This thread exemplifies the problem with the current discussion.

Someone one points out something that one group does wrong (either with the ANTIFA Thugs or the White Supremacist Thugs that are the extreme of both political wings)

Someone on the other side goes out and says 'But yeah, the other side did something just as bad!'

That's not the point. Saying that the extremists on the other side does bad things too doesn't mitigate what was done. The KKK/White Supremacists in Charleston represent probably less than 1% of the beliefs of the average Trump voter and ANTIFA represents probably less than 1% of what a true Obama/Clinton voter really believes.

But when a person goes out and tries to deflect or justify what one group does because another group does it then they are in fact being an apologist for that extreme group. In the end if you do that you are really no different than the 'Mainstream Muslim' that tries to justify the actions of ISIS based upon something that happened in 1990, or 2002, or 2003 or 1528.

Evil is evil. Neo Nazi's are evil. ANTIFA is evil. ISIS is evil. If you try to equivocate or rationalize it then you are just being an apologist for that evil.

[mancat]

So the site owner thinks that Trump supporters are Nazis.

This is an interesting development.