Whoa now... There are TWO site owners, Steve (madpick) and myself. And as far as I can tell (and I can tell a lot), neither of us have chimed in to any level like that. This whole thread is a disease of brush strokes caused by automated car wash size brushes. I suggest we not continue that trend moving forward, the above posters comment included.

Does anyone have a list of the speakers at the SF free speech event that was cancelled?

I am laughing with you bud, not at you.

The first reason that I am laughing is because of that old game called "telephone" or something like that, in which a piece of information is whispered around a room of 30 kids, and the last person stands up and says it out loud.

The second reason would be those old things called logical fallacies:
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Every single one of us makes these errors, and some of us do it several times a day just to keep good at it.

And here's how this works around here.
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The fellows in red own the site.
The punks in green are those two Administrators' Bitch Boys. We mean squat. And we all have opinions.

I also object to the comments about the site owners. I've noted that Steve and Dan have been nothing but polite in everything I've seen from them. They put up with a lot and they bust their butts to keep this site running. The WA gun and 2A scene would suck without this site so don't be spewing crap about them.

And stop de-railing the topic!

Ok my apologies I thought Benja455 was one of the owners

You also forgot about the members in YELLOW who may be "mods" but in reality are NOT "mods" but like to pretend they ARE "mods"........

Oh fuk no.

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I searched the web. Mostly you get very slanted pieces like this (if you can't read the bias in this, then well....): http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/25/s ... izers-say/ The comments are interesting though. Some people get it. I don't particularly enjoy being lied to.

Turns out there was one, maybe two white speakers (not even racists). The others were people of color. There were no fascists, no nazis. The organizer is Japanese-American.

Wait for Aug 29 to post: http://ktth.com/demand/shows/toddherman Listen to the middle of hour 1, August 29. Fascinating.

Wow... The comments almost triggered me. Holy cow, what a bunch of trouble this USA is in.
White nationalists, Nazis, hate speech, gun-waving.... The article and the comments seemed to have about 6% of the facts correct, and that was mostly the dates and locations.

It's almost like the more information available the more ignorant people seem/act.

I need others to confirm the actual list of speakers. That seems oddly hard to find.

You need a new monitor. That's supposed to be orange.

Back on topic...

Now, days later, the Berkeley PD is trying to claim that because they initially retreated and allowed violent, weapon carrying Antifa to infiltrate other crowds that had already been screened for weapons that it was "hard" to arrest them later when they turned violent...

http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bla ... 159564.php

Gee really, you think?!

The police are being told to stand down, they are more concerned about their paychecks then arresting the criminals and doing their job.

In related news, an extreme lib professor at Dartmouth publicly supported Antifa violence and attempted to couch it in terms of "self defense" against "normalizing hate."

The President of the university condemned the Professors comments that endorsed Antifa's violence.

...then, up steps 100 faculty at that elitist college who took issue with the President's condemnation of the professor's comments and demanded that the President take back HIS statement!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/da ... lence.html

That's right, over 100 faculty at this ivy league school are now defending the position of endorsing Antifa violence.