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 Frack! What'll we do with all of this RADIOACTIVE IODINE?!? 
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I know!a We'll toss it in the ocean and claim to be tracking deep water currents. It only has a half life of SIXTEEN MILLION YEARS so what's the big deal.

Well, that HALF of it will still be around in SIXTEEN MILLION YEARS... and they haven't stopped.... and...and... (we need a melty-face emoji, steve)

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 100323.htm

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:57 pm
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"Radioactive contaminants have been legally released for more than half a century from the nuclear reprocessing plants at Sellafield (UK) and La Hague (France). Scientists have recently begun to use the radioactive 129iodine (129I) as a way of tracking the movement of ocean currents. They emphasise that the radioactivity levels found in the North Atlantic are extremely low and not considered dangerous"

Do you know any different?


Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:12 pm
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here is what I surmise:
Nuclear material has a LOOOOOONNG life.

While the ocean is vast, there are many artificial sources dumping, in some cases, TONS of that material into the ocean and the culprits all say: "Don't worry, it's just a small amount and the ocean is a big place"...

BUT, it is a closed system, the world. And these particles, while might not be too dangerous when swimming and brushing up against them, wouldn't be so good if ingested.

I was reading about this kind of shiite back when Fukushima had just exploded (another on-going source of pollution)... as a lay person with no medical training other than what I picked up watching Marcus Welby as a kid... there was an explanation that caught my ear that explained such a risk saying that a single particle being ingested and then incorporated into the muscle mass of the organism that ate it... that particle lodges in your aorta (or wherever) and it keeps sending it's little poison pills out into the surrounding tissue. Their claim was that it could spark cancer or even heart disease (if lodged in one's heart)

Now I understand that there are many NATURAL sources of radiation. But I also am given to understand that the effects of radiation are cumulative...so there is no merit in adding to those sources(?)

Now Iodine concentrates in the Thyroid. That's why one is supposed to take (non radioactive) iodine well in advance of exposure in order to saturate one's thyroid with untainted iodine preventing the absorption of radioactive iodine. Follow?

Remember the tritium watch dials? Tritium wasn't so bad worn on your wrist, but if you swallowed it... it became a part of you and ... the watch dial makers used to paint the watch dial tick marks, if you will, with little tiny paint brushes... well those little marks on the watch dial are TINY and one needs a very pointy brush to paint them neatly...so they would form the point on their brushes by licking them or pressing them between their lips... presto CANCER.

So, let's say you like to eat ocean fish...and that fish has been eating stuff which wallows around in ocean sediments and has sucked up some of this radioactive iodine...and then you eat the fish... are you picking up what I'm putting down.

In this case, MORE is NOT better.

but I'm just a carpenter. You make your own call.

here's some reading:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... 87/?page=1

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:50 pm
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Atlantic? Try the Pacific!

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:52 pm
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Look at all that Radioactive material in Harvey

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:13 pm
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I knew it!!!

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:15 pm
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You get more radiation in the basement of a brick home than what's in the ocean. Definitely not worried.

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:22 pm
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hkcavalier wrote:
You get more radiation in the basement of a brick home than what's in the ocean. Definitely not worried.



Go back and read the first page of the article which I linked.

More is not better. Damage is cumulative. Sorry. Your reasoning is faulty.

"The effect of ionizing radiation is to injure or destroy cells....the injurious effects of radiation accumulate as the dose accumulates.

(add the brick to the iodine being released into the sea by the French and the Caesium and tritium being released into the sea at Fukushima to the stuff seeping out of the Hanford tanks)

...each exposure to radiation adds to the total stress the body is called upon to withstand from all causes...

once injury has occurred there is no known means for repairing the damage..."

Please. Don't lick your bricks and read.

You can also read about how temporary whole body exposure to external radiation...your brick... is far different from... say the japanese kids who got sick from drinking milk of cows who ate the grass upon which fallout from the powerplants fell.

Your brick is way different from EATING contamination that has entered the food chain.

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:37 pm
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So, Iodine-129 may have a super long half life, but it's 100% beta decay at just under 40 keV. Unless you are living with a massive amount of this isotope stuffed in your boxers, this isn't going to hurt you.
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/59a4d4570b291/I-129_tables.pdf

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Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:41 pm
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That was Radium, discontinued in watches in 1960.
They still use Tritium vials in some watches.
Rolex stopped using Tritium in 1998 and switched to Luminova because Japan prohibits it in consumer products, and the Japanese do buy a lot of watches.






jukk0u wrote:

Remember the tritium watch dials? Tritium wasn't so bad worn on your wrist, but if you swallowed it... it became a part of you and ... the watch dial makers used to paint the watch dial tick marks, if you will, with little tiny paint brushes... well those little marks on the watch dial are TINY and one needs a very pointy brush to paint them neatly...so they would form the point on their brushes by licking them or pressing them between their lips... presto CANCER.

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There is more poisonous crap in the gun solvents you use to clean firearms than nuclear contaminents.
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Is that the same Skull n Cross Bones Burns like Hell Red Shit my Mom use to put on my cuts when I was a Kid...maybe that's why I'm so strange.

So Regular Iodine doesn't Burn?

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Shit, no one tell this man about bananas being a source of radioactive potassium-40 or that he inhales radioactive radon gas every day.


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jukk0u wrote:
(add the brick to the iodine being released into the sea by the French and the Caesium and tritium being released into the sea at Fukushima to the stuff seeping out of the Hanford tanks)

Wait!

We pay HOW much for tritium night sights, and they are just throwing/leaking that stuff into the ocean???

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