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"A four-year, traditional university is supposed to be a place of learning, of understanding, of safety and security. However, there is an element among us who may be frustrating those goals: Veterans.

UCCS is known for its number of veterans who are full and part-time students. But these veterans of much of the school prides themselves on may be hurting the university.

First off, many veterans openly mock the ideas of diversity and safe spaces for vulnerable members of society. This is directly in contradiction to the mission of UCCS. Many veterans utter the mantra that they, "do not see color". But the problem lies in their socialization into the military culture that is that of a white supremacist organization. They have been permanently tainted, and are no long fit for a four-year university.

Second, many students are frightened by the presence of veterans in their classrooms. Veterans usually have an overwhelming presence in the classroom, which can distract other students. This is usually true for vulnerable individual such as LGBTQQI2SAA, who have been known to be the butt of insensitive jokes made by veterans.

Finally, veterans usually are associated with extremists right-wing groups such as the tea party and the NRA. In order to provide a safe place for all students, extremist right-wing groups must be suppressed on campus. This would include their followers: veterans.

That is not to say that veterans should not be allowed an education. Veterans should be allowed to attend trade schools, or maybe even community college. But, in order to protect our academic institutions we must ban veterans from four-year universities."

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The university released a statement opposing this newsletter, but they did approve it for publication while weakly claiming they felt compelled for "free speech." Funny, if it was a racist manifesto from the klan I doubt they'd have approved it.

Given how this stuff spreads it won't be long before this finds it's way to a sympathetic university where this policy may actually be attempted. Nevermind that its illegal and hateful, it's like timer travel to the 60s, but that's what the libs want because that's when they remember being most powerful.

Too broad of a brush in your response in my opinion. The proposal is clearly from a snowflake crackpot though

Alpine wrote:The university released a statement opposing this newsletter,

Right here, end of story. When I wen to PLU, our TV, print and radio station put out opinions that were off the cuff too. Very rarely did the Administration review our work before publish or airing.

Let the people think what they want to think. Until the actual administration DOES start to impose such policies, let crybabies be crybabies. Don't even give them the satisfaction that we are even slightly concerned about this. It's stupid, and we as a nation have better shit to talk about.

Dafuq is a LGBTQQI2SAA? Is helicopter included?

God forbid anyone be UNCOMFORTABLE.

Bunch of whiny ass bitches.

While normally I'd agree that it should stop when considering that the college released an official statement opposed to this piece, it's worth noting that they DO refuse to publish "hate speech" and have rejected other "hateful" content to this same publication.

That means the university does not consider this to be "hateful." That is 50% of the way to condoning it by the libs' own standards.

Alpine wrote:While normally I'd agree that it should stop when considering that the college released an official statement opposed to this piece, it's worth noting that they DO refuse to publish "hate speech" and have rejected other "hateful" content to this same publication.

That means the university does not consider this to be "hateful." That is 50% of the way to condoning it by the libs' own standards.

Unless you are part of the review team that actually decides criteria on how things are allowed, that's all conjecture. I hate to follow the hashtag train, but #manufacturedoutrage comes to mind.

I heard lots of stories from my father and my uncles about how they were treated when they came home from Nam. 3 of them tried getting higher education and colleges were openly hostile to them in classrooms and with administrative treatment. It's not manufactured or unprecedented.

One had a professor spit in his face and call him a baby killer. She tried kicking him from her class and he was forced to change his schedule and struggled to make up that required credit.

And this college is in Colorado Springs - home of the Air Force Academy. Very military area.

I saw elsewhere that the "student" that got permission and put it up is not listed as a student, and in fact can't be found as a real person.

Yeah, the college response was weak - "well, we don't agree but free speech, you know?" kind of approach.

Just more digging and poking to cause trouble.

Alpine wrote:I heard lots of stories from my father and my uncles about how they were treated when they came home from Nam. 3 of them tried getting higher education and colleges were openly hostile to them in classrooms and with administrativery treatment. It's not manufactured or unprecedented.

One had a professor spit in his face and call him a baby killer. She tried kicking him from her class and he was forced to change his schedule and struggled to make up that required credit.

Sigh... I'm not saying that the people who wrote that are not little shits. What I am saying is that this is a NON-Story. Somebody wrote something, the college said they opposed it, done, end. #manufacturedoutrage is then created when somebody tries to blame the college for doing / or not doing something and insinuating that because of their action/in-action that they are culpable and in fact agree with the little shits. #spinmaster would be a better tagline. By giving the article clicks/hits/hot linking, you are validating the little shits and their little shit ideas.

I can see we do not agree with this, and that's fine. But I think it's wrong to 1) even air this non-story and 2)Try and spin outrage against the school for doing or not doing something.

If the words "veteran" and "white supermacists" in the article were replaced with "African Americans" and "black supremacists" would it be a non-story?

Of course because it wouldn't have even been published.

PTmorgan wrote:

Just more digging and poking to cause trouble.

Alpine wrote:If the words "veteran" and "white supermacists" in the article were replaced with "African Americans" and "black supremacists" would it be a non-story?

Of course because it wouldn't have even been published.

For more spin, add "black" to veteran. That will really manufacture some rage!

Evergreen college already tried pressuring white people to stay off of campus for a day, and when they were called on it they tried to pretend it wasn't official but then the school president told the campus police to "stand down" and allow agitators to try and hunt down a professor that dared speak out about it.

At Berkeley, several events featuring conservative speakers were already canceled, and the mayor is trying to get even more canceled.

The trend here is clear, surging elements of the Left want college campuses verboten to groups they don't like.

Massivedesign wrote:

Alpine wrote:I heard lots of stories from my father and my uncles about how they were treated when they came home from Nam. 3 of them tried getting higher education and colleges were openly hostile to them in classrooms and with administrativery treatment. It's not manufactured or unprecedented.

One had a professor spit in his face and call him a baby killer. She tried kicking him from her class and he was forced to change his schedule and struggled to make up that required credit.

Sigh... I'm not saying that the people who wrote that are not little shits. What I am saying is that this is a NON-Story. Somebody wrote something, the college said they opposed it, done, end. #manufacturedoutrage is then created when somebody tries to blame the college for doing / or not doing something and insinuating that because of their action/in-action that they are culpable and in fact agree with the little shits. #spinmaster would be a better tagline. By giving the article clicks/hits/hot linking, you are validating the little shits and their little shit ideas.

I can see we do not agree with this, and that's fine. But I think it's wrong to 1) even air this non-story and 2)Try and spin outrage against the school for doing or not doing something.

Have to disagree about it being a non story. Is it a big story? No probably not but it is an example of the double standard that pervades campuses today. Like others have said, if someone had put out a newsletter for approval that advocated that all Hispanics should be banned from college because a percentage of them are illegal aliens or blacks should be banned because some are in gangs then it would never be approved. If a college truly believes in free speech then it has to allow that kind of speech as well but I seriously doubt that any campus, including this one, would allow distribution of such a document.

I don't think the issue is the document, it is stupid beyond comprehension. What is the issue is the hypocrisy of colleges that allow some groups to post radical material while telling other groups that their radical material is not fit for distribution.

Massivedesign wrote:

Alpine wrote:The university released a statement opposing this newsletter,

Right here, end of story. When I wen to PLU, our TV, print and radio station put out opinions that were off the cuff too. Very rarely did the Administration review our work before publish or airing.

Let the people think what they want to think. Until the actual administration DOES start to impose such policies, let crybabies be crybabies. Don't even give them the satisfaction that we are even slightly concerned about this. It's stupid, and we as a nation have better shit to talk about.

As a fellow Lute you might remember this.

When I was there there was a teacher who had a rare office in the basement of the UC (now called Anderson building I think). He was a math/econ professor who was old, had been there forever and was notorious for posting conservative stuff about family values, public school vouchers and Christian teachings. everywhere. My second year some idiots tried putting a petition on the school website that he and any other professor with such "oppressive views" should be fired. They were not allowed to publish it and when they pushed it they got discipline.