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Navy destroyer collides with building in downtown Houston..
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TechnoWeenie
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LinkQuote: Navy officials say they are planning a number of PowerPoint trainings related to urban maritime navigation. 
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Sinus211
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Almost had me there
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| Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:10 pm |
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Guntrader
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It would have been a building that hit the unaware Aegis destroyer.
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| Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:12 pm |
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Mediumrarechicken
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I'd believe it with how the navy has been lately
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| Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:31 pm |
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olydemon
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I think these captains must have graduated from the Joseph Hazelwood school for drunken sailors....
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| Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 pm |
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SFCRMSA
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I feel really bad for the Sailors that have lost their lives in these accidents. Also, those who have suffered injuries both physically and mentally. As a former service member you trust your safety and well being to your leadership as you do your job and they do theirs. Serving in the military, always risks involved. With that said, I never served in the Navy. But I am confident to relay these thoughts on the matter. These US Naval ships have the most advanced radar, navigation, communication and manned 24hrs a day by crew that is trained on how to run a ship in the open ocean. These are combat ships, prepared for war 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. These are not fishing trolerrs. Moreover, these ships can operate in the strongest storms, hurricane, dead of night, anytime. How in the hell do you run into another ship? We are not talking about a zodiac or a 24ft sail boat, I mean like a ship. Puzzling.
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| Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:32 pm |
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delliottg
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SFCRMSA wrote: I feel really bad for the Sailors that have lost their lives in these accidents. Also, those who have suffered injuries both physically and mentally. As a former service member you trust your safety and well being to your leadership as you do your job and they do theirs. Serving in the military, always risks involved. With that said, I never served in the Navy. But I am confident to relay these thoughts on the matter. These US Naval ships have the most advanced radar, navigation, communication and manned 24hrs a day by crew that is trained on how to run a ship in the open ocean. These are combat ships, prepared for war 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. These are not fishing trolerrs. Moreover, these ships can operate in the strongest storms, hurricane, dead of night, anytime. How in the hell do you run into another ship? We are not talking about a zodiac or a 24ft sail boat, I mean like a ship. Puzzling. I suspect these are going to be attributed, at least partially, to proximity alarm fatigue. If you've got a proximity alarm going off constantly because there are always other ships close enough to trigger it (Singapore Straits, offshore of Tokyo), you're going to quickly learn to ignore (or simply silence without further thought) that alarm. Now that you've grown used to it, or silenced it, other things take precedence and since the other ship can't see you (reduced radar cross section, deliberately darkened ship, moonless night), it becomes relatively easy for the zillion dollar destroyer to end up in the path of the can't see for shit and may not even have someone on the bridge cargo ship.
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| Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:02 pm |
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Guntrader
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In the early 80's CIC would contact the lookouts if a skunk appeared on radar before they reported it. And this was Fred Flintstone era radar on a gator freighter.
I'm guessing that a few years years back the Navy went full social experiment and put the deaf guys on the sound powered phones and the blind guys on the radar.
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sportsdad60
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LMAO!
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delliottg
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Guntrader wrote: In the early 80's CIC would contact the lookouts if a skunk appeared on radar before they reported it. And this was Fred Flintstone era radar on a gator freighter.
I'm guessing that a few years years back the Navy went full social experiment and put the deaf guys on the sound powered phones and the blind guys on the radar. That's about when I was in. When we were underway, we generally had a guy (quartermaster, or maybe a boatswain's mate, dunno) on each bridge wing scanning the horizon with the big eyes, and the scope dopes in CIC would be running the surface search radar. When we spent six months in the Persian Gulf, we had an extra contingent of marines (armed with Stingers) up above the signal shack. However, I distinctly remember one moonless night somewhere around the Straits of Hormuz where I was looking through the big eyes just to see what I could see (wasn't on watch, just bored & curious) and saw the completely blacked out silhouette of another warship go by in the opposite direction maybe 1500-2000 yards off our starboard side. The only way that I could see it was as it obscured lights on shore, you could just make it out, but there was nothing else visually to tell you that there was another ship out there.
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olydemon
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I just read on the internet that this was actually a failed attempt to ram Trumps motorcade.
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| Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:16 am |
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RockHopper
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olydemon wrote: I just read on the internet that this was actually a failed attempt to ram Trumps motorcade. Haaaaaahahahahahahaha
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