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Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:47 pm

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... _over.html

To bad the police don't know who ended up with the notebook.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:54 pm

Correction to that video: The woman WAS a valid pistol license holder.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:25 pm

I don't have an opinion on who was more wrong in the situation. But if someone pulls a gun, and I exit the area.

I love how these morons just stand around like it's no big deal.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:40 pm

Ops wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/02/woman_pulls_out_gun_in_michigan_walmart_during_back_to_school_fight_over.html

To bad the police don't know who ended up with the notebook.

"In case you're wondering, the one who pulled out the gun ended up winning out in the notebook-off. The mother-daughter pair ended up walking away with the precious back-to-school item. “I don't know how they ended up with it, but in the middle of the confrontation, they ended up with it and they purchased it,”

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:45 pm

I am pretty sure that if the mother had not have pulled the gun out and ended it, then there would have been about a dozen big ol ghetto bitches beating up the daughter.

Is she legally able to defend her daughters safety?

When does a person decide that a notebook tug of war doesnt turn into a trampling?

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:11 pm

Old Growth wrote:I am pretty sure that if the mother had not have pulled the gun out and ended it, then there would have been about a dozen big ol ghetto bitches beating up the daughter.

Is she legally able to defend her daughters safety?

When does a person decide that a notebook tug of war doesnt turn into a trampling?


This is sound reasoning. The daughter was down on knee when the gun came out. If one of my daughters had dropped to a knee with larger individuals crowding around....I might not draw my gun, but violence would would be immediately applied to that situation.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:34 pm

Old Growth wrote:I am pretty sure that if the mother had not have pulled the gun out and ended it, then there would have been about a dozen big ol ghetto bitches beating up the daughter.

Is she legally able to defend her daughters safety?

When does a person decide that a notebook tug of war doesnt turn into a trampling?


Maybe but you can't just pull out a gun based upon what you think might happen. There has to be an imminent threat, not a possible one.

And it's over a fucking notebook. To be blunt, if someone wants a damned notebook that bad they can have it.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:48 pm

As carriers of firearms we all need to know the law, which apparently is not the case here. This is the WA RCW on justifiable use of deadly force for a person other than police officer. Deadly force is justifiable, according to WA state law, to prevent the commission of a felony or great personal injury to yourself, your family, or any other person in your presence or company. This situation, assuming that we're looking at felony assault or the possibility of great personal injury to the woman's daughter, clearly passes the sniff test.

This is important stuff for us to know folks.

9A.16.050.
HOMICIDE-BY
OTHER
PERSON
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WHEN JUSTIFIABLE.
Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he is

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:59 pm

Maybe but there is also a responsibility to not escalate a situation to a point where deadly force is necessary. This is a case of two women arguing over a notebook and allowing it to escalate to the point where a gun was pulled. I agree that the woman has the right to defend herself but to allow the situation to deteriorate to the point where someone is put into bodily risk over a notebook means that both parties are at fault. IMHO someone that carries a firearm has the responsibility to not get sucked into a situation that requires using that firearm.

It was a notebook. If the woman came up and grabbed it out of her cart while at the same time threatening her and her daughter then I could see justification. But if two people grab the same thing and it ends up resulting in violence then both parties are guilty.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:49 am

I'm not trying to say they aren't idiots. No no no, these people have problems. But for the sake of argument the situation did de- escalate quickly when that pistol came out. :bigsmile:

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:28 am

first off someone needed to start some Marvin Gaye



and then spill the baby oil.

Love not Guns

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:30 am

If you can walk away with no harm, it's not a threat.

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:37 am

sinus and Ops, funny stuff! Your posts were a funny response! LOL!

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:43 am

Insensitive bastards.

No one even bothered asking the important question.

How did the notebook feel about being kidnapped at gunpoint ?

Re: Woman pulls gun in walmart over fight for notebook

Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:25 pm

Hey, it's Michigan, home of Detroit. Who gives a shit?

I'm never surprised at what happens in Walmarts around the country.

They are sort of like those old hill country home remedies you put on a boil. They both draw the "pus" out. One from the boil, the other from society.


I get out and about quite a bit and as I do I never see the people I see only at a Walmart. Weird.
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