I don't want to get into a pissing match over this so I'll let it drop. However I am no conspiracy nut and if you think I've ever posted anything like that feel free to PM me a link to my post and we can take the discussion private.
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
Did you see him tell Piers Morgan that he feared a tyranny coming to power in the next century but that he was OK with UBCs?
He's demonstrating a whole lot of stupid with that position.
I'm for background checks when purchasing a new firearm and used to require a CPL when selling a used gun pre I594. I guess I'm in the stupid wagon too?
It's hard to find someone I agree with 100%, but Shapiro is pretty close.
Did you see him tell Piers Morgan that he feared a tyranny coming to power in the next century but that he was OK with UBCs?
He's demonstrating a whole lot of stupid with that position.
I'm for background checks when purchasing a new firearm and used to require a CPL when selling a used gun pre I594. I guess I'm in the stupid wagon too?
It's hard to find someone I agree with 100%, but Shapiro is pretty close.
Given that the ATF was caught illegally holding onto those check records longer than statutes allow and no one was fired and no one was prosecuted when that illegal database was found...
_________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:54 am
Mediumrarechicken
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I don't want to get into a pissing match over this so I'll let it drop. However I am no conspiracy nut and if you think I've ever posted anything like that feel free to PM me a link to my post and we can take the discussion private.
The Amazon leaving Seattle one comes to mind.
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Given that the ATF was caught illegally holding onto those check records longer than statutes allow and no one was fired and no one was prosecuted when that illegal database was found...
Gosh, if only we had someone in the executive branch who could reform some of these dysfunctional agencies. Oh well, at least he's killing it with the tweets.
Relying on sympathetic or diligent administrations not to abuse illegal resources is a bad strategy. Better to simply remove those resources and never fund them again.
We should shutter the ATF and sell off their buildings and assets.
_________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:07 am
Mr. Q
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I used to like him a lot until I noticed he has a lot of statist views. He's still OK but I wouldn't pay to hear him speak.
He's in favor of UBCs, but then idiotically and naively insists we must stop the government from registering guns. Apparently he's no so brilliant that he can't see the cognitive dissonance there. https://conservative-daily.com/2016/08/ ... -registry/
Granted, it's hard to find some public figure that I agree with 100% of the time but that's a pretty big problem he's got.
Where do you see that Ben is for UBC's? I've followed him a long time and don't remember hearing him say that he's in favor for them because UBC = control.
He uses UBC to point out how ineffective the government is.
I was relying on his statement to Piers Morgan you can see in the video clip on the previous page. That does seem to conflict with the tweets you posted above. Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
Where do you see that Ben is for UBC's? I've followed him a long time and don't remember hearing him say that he's in favor for them because UBC = control.
He uses UBC to point out how ineffective the government is.
That's always been my impression, it's consistent with his other views on government being bad at most things (and therefore should be minimally involved with your life).
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:58 am
Mr. Q
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I was relying on his statement to Piers Morgan you can see in the video clip on the previous page. That does seem to conflict with the tweets you posted above. Interesting. Thanks for the info.
In his statements, Ben says that we should calibrate laws to keep guns out of the hands of bad people and keep guns in the hands of good people. I guess that kind of screams UBC's and "common sense gun laws". He seems a little inconsistent with what he said to Piers and his tweets, although I'm willing to give him leeway since he was trying to find a little middle ground with Piers after insulting him for "standing on the graves of the children who died in Sandy Hook" lol.
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:11 am
bigzdawg
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Shapiro was a big anti-Trumper in the election, but overall a principled conservative. One of my regular sources of information. He thinks things out instead of just reacting.
Ok, Shapiro is officially a nut. In the above tweets he says UBCs are bad, but in this video clip he says UBCs are good. You can see it at time index: 8:20.
He also calls AR-15s "assault weapons" and "assault rifles" dozens of times and then admits he knows the difference between semi auto and full auto....
This guy is an idiot and either doesn't understand firearms as well as he pretends or he's a flip-flopping "Butter."
_________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
I was relying on his statement to Piers Morgan you can see in the video clip on the previous page. That does seem to conflict with the tweets you posted above. Interesting. Thanks for the info.
In his statements, Ben says that we should calibrate laws to keep guns out of the hands of bad people and keep guns in the hands of good people. I guess that kind of screams UBC's and "common sense gun laws". He seems a little inconsistent with what he said to Piers and his tweets, although I'm willing to give him leeway since he was trying to find a little middle ground with Piers after insulting him for "standing on the graves of the children who died in Sandy Hook" lol.
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At 8:20 in the video he explicitly says "everyone" must go through a background check. He's also OK with government databases of gun owners. Seems to conflict with those tweets again.
It seems like is randomly Shapiro anti-gun one minute, and then contradicting his own positions the next minute. He's rapid-fire flip-flopping.
_________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:16 am
Olympia173
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Shapiro was a big anti-Trumper in the election, but overall a principled conservative...
I'd say Ben's having been one of the leading never-Trumpers actually enhances his principled conservative bona fides. His loyalty is to the ideas of conservatism rather than a man or a political party.
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:29 am
Olympia173
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Ok, Shapiro is officially a nut... He also calls AR-15s "assault weapons" and "assault rifles" dozens of times and then admits he knows the difference between semi auto and full auto.... This guy is an idiot and either doesn't understand firearms as well as he pretends or he's a flip-flopping "Butter."
Don't you think it's a little absurd to declare an individual is a "nut" and an "idiot" because he's not as immersed in the gun culture as you and your friends? This guy runs the most listened to conservative podcast in the country and actively defends the 2nd amendment any chance he gets. So what if he's using the language of the host in this debate? His time was limited and rather than eat it up having the "Assault Rifle vs. Armalite Rifle" semantics discussion, he instead used it to make points that mattered. Not everyone is all-guns-all-the-time. Let's just be thankful that we have intelligent, articulate people like Ben Shapiro out there taking a stand for our side.
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