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 8 year old football players kneel during national anthem 
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This fucking pisses me off to no end...

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Son, please feel free to take a knee during the anthem. The locks will be changed before you get home, have a nice life provided by someone other than me.

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Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:41 am
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None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it


Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:42 am
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Duke EB wrote:
None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it


It bothers me, this country will only survive if the people who live here understand how special it is. This trend tells me they don't.


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sreyemj wrote:
Duke EB wrote:
None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it


It bothers me, this country will only survive if the people who live here understand how special it is. This trend tells me they don't.

This trend tells me they do, by understanding that they have the right to do this. The constitution is what makes this country special.


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None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it

Me either. But I think it's more of the parents doing than the kids doing it for their own reasons. That's what upsets me

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Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:44 am
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Duke EB wrote:
None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it

Me either. But I think it's more of the parents doing than the kids doing it for their own reasons. That's what upsets me

Makes sense, I understand.


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Kaepernick should have been fined and suspended the first time he pulled that shit.
Pretty sure there is a clause in his contract that would prohibit something like that.
Morals, insubordination, improperly representing the team, etc.

As the owners are finding out now, the fans don't like it and it is costing them money.
"That survey indicated 30 percent of the viewers who watched less football in 2016 than they did the season prior said they did so because they were offended by players protesting the anthem. "



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Kneeling is a basic human position where one or both knees touch the ground. It is used as a resting position, during childbirth and as an expression of reverence and submission.

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be in or assume a position in which the body is supported by a knee or the knees, as when praying or showing submission:
"they knelt down and prayed"


I think sitting is quite inappropriate. But Kneeling.....that might actually be better than standing up.


Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:58 am
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Duke EB wrote:
None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it

It bothers me, and I won't waste space with why, and create an internet argument.

What bothers me about THIS situation is the coach boiled it down to "black people being killed, and nobody going to jail"...

The issues are so much more complex, it is, literally, beyond the comprehension of even many adults. To dilute it down like that for eight year old kids is a mindfuck they don't even know they got. Bad coach.

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While the act into itself doesn't bother me much, it is the circumstances that has MADE the act of 8 year olds doing so.
No friggen kid is going to do this on his own accord. This rests soley upon the coach and parents.
These offspring will be the ones complaining about jobs and opportunities.
They more than highly likely won't join the armed services. They will vote whomever promises them the most benefits without effort.
They will be the first to cry discrimination when they don't like something, or someone has an opinion other than their own.
Society has failed.
Society has failed so far into the darkness, there is no hope of change due to the very reason 8 year old children take a knee.


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Nate wrote:
What bothers me about THIS situation is the coach boiled it down to "black people being killed, and nobody going to jail"...

The issues are so much more complex, it is, literally, beyond the comprehension of even many adults. To dilute it down like that for eight year old kids is a mindfuck they don't even know they got. Bad coach.

I completely agree with this.

But like I said above, kneeling in and of itself doesn't bother me. You kneel before the King, you kneel before god. Kneeling is a sign of respect.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301
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(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.


What about 2 hands behind the back?

Where did these traditions even come from?


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Nate wrote:
Duke EB wrote:
None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it

It bothers me, and I won't waste space with why, and create an internet argument.

What bothers me about THIS situation is the coach boiled it down to "black people being killed, and nobody going to jail"...

The issues are so much more complex, it is, literally, beyond the comprehension of even many adults. To dilute it down like that for eight year old kids is a mindfuck they don't even know they got. Bad coach.

It's ok, i'm not looking to argue or demean your reasons. You have every right to react as you wish.


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Duke EB wrote:
sreyemj wrote:
Duke EB wrote:
None of this kneeling offends or upsets me. I wouldn't do it, but I have no causes that would benefit from it


It bothers me, this country will only survive if the people who live here understand how special it is. This trend tells me they don't.

This trend tells me they do, by understanding that they have the right to do this. The constitution is what makes this country special.



rights have NOTHING to do with this....it is about RESPECT

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