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They do have higher standards. There's a reason they have to do background checks with people knocking on doors going back ten years. There's a reason they can't have any of the typical crimes many people do daily. Unlike you they have to pass a qual to carry a gun and a different one to carry a small gun in their pocket. Unlike anyone welse here, they also have a duty to act. You see someone getting hacked apart and at the very most there might be some old law that says you should try to summon help if it's safe. The cop is expected to run into the danger. Yes yes, I know the supreme court, police are not responsible to protect the individual. Common snese should have the answer to that. If it had ruled otherwise everyone who had a car broken into would be suing their city.
Exactly what kind of information and training do you have to make the statements that they aren't held to a higher standard? And just what "higher standard" do you want? Competitive shooting ability? So raise the budget by a factor of five to pay for ammo, training, and more officers (because there are only 24 hours in a day and seven days a weeks and a week every month will need to be spent at the range). Plus the EMT and legal training that I'm sure you want too.

Meaningless. That is an average. That's adding every salary together and dividing by the total number of salaries.
That will include minimum wage jobs at the gas station.
It would be better to compare to other jobs that have something with similar education or training requirements. Then maybe compare to jobs that have a similar number of physical and mental hazards.
Then you have to somehow add in the bravery factor because as Technoweenie keeps going on about you have to find someone willing to be a bullet sponge if need be. That means someone braver than most of the population.

It happens.
The Lynnwood Police Department Deputy Chief in charge of investigations was convicted of theft a few years ago.
He took his work home with him, literally.
Guns, drugs, and cash. Was storing the evidence at his house.
http://home.iape.org/features/headline- ... aling.html

They also had a sergeant who was busted for pimping out his wife and several other girls down in Vegas.

Fuck......
I've been around law enforcement of just shy of 50 years.
Every swinging dick was human and not God.
For the life of me I continue to be completely amazed at those that honestly believe all officers should be God and never fail as a human.
40 years ago was much different than today.
An officer is expected to trust citizens, wholly, and assume that citizen isn't going to try and kill them, every fucking day. Try living that life, hell enlist as a ground pounder if you can't cut it as a cop, and go walk in some country hoping every minute that shit doesn't get real and your training will mimic what you're about to experience, so you know what the fuck to do when it hits the fan.
Fuck...... simple traffic stops anymore are spooky as fuck, and the hatred of cops is at an all time high. Responding to some shots fired or domestic with reports of weapons and the level of sphincter factor is thru the roof.
Can't even run traffic during a peaceful protest without being gear up for the bricks and bottles thrown at you, for the simple FACT that you wear a uniform and have authority.
Yet some expect those officers to get shot at before firing their own weapon, just in case you know....

I'm sure I'm a bit tainted and could never be an officer as I don't have the patience or trust of the population to talk someone down with a weapon, run after someone, hide behind the corner or give someone that's having a meltdown a second chance. Because in all reality, those fuckers would shoot a cop to avoid jail or to stop the officer from interrupting whatever the fuck they were doing.

Some of the anger/resentment/distrust/and words of higher expectations of officers on here is pretty crappy, just crappy, fucking depressing...
We're all human, even cops. If an officer fucks up, he/she should be punished, just like the rest of us.
Their punishment shouldn't be a broad stroke of a brush, shit happens fast and they have to rely on ever evolving training for scenarios that are never the same twice and change daily.
There's good and bad cops. There's good cops that have gone bad. At what percentage? Much less than the rest of the citizens out there.


How many people on here are absolutely perfect in everything they do, always and 100% never fuck up in ALL they do, every damned day? How many? Step up, let us know which one of you is God.
Unless you've been something other than a pog in the armed forces or a cop, you're all fucking arm chair quarter backing this shit, and it needs to stop. Cops fuck up like the rest of the population, punish that individual, not the rest of them, don't judge all by one, or even a dozen.
Have experience or step up and put on the uniform before a judgement is passed, anything else is just fluff.

Fuck people, are we really that petty with narcissistic opinions?

Being a perfect fuckup don't count.

Rick is on to me. :-/

I always wondered what you looked like. Balrog obviously gets her looks from her Mom!!

Ah, I see why the confusion there.

I also said...

And...


You see, you are taking that as: Cops should be held to higher standards and no one else should be held to higher standards.

When what I actually said was... The baker should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. The heart surgeon should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. The cop should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us.

The baker should make better bread than I could. The heart surgeon should save more lives than I could. And the cop should be a better cop than I could be.

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As for the rest of the emotional rants against what I am supposedly saying...

*I never said cops had to be like gods. But you apply that intention to my words.

And then you say that I should either regard cops AS gods, or else I hate them. One or the other. Black or white. No other choice.

Seriously, either I close my eyes to what the bad cops do, or else I hate cops. There is no middle ground where I can recognize that the majority of cops are good. I can actually SUPPORT cops... And yet still want to see more bad cops held accountable, instead of excused, and even promoted...

*There ARE people who rag on the cops every chance they get. I am not one of those people. I LIKE the cops. I used to be one.

*The MSM DOES have an agenda against cops. I am not the MSM. I don't buy into their agenda. And I resent being thrown into the same bucket of crap they inhabit just because I recognize that human beings can make mistakes. And I prefer that people learn from their mistakes. Not get them excused and swept under the carpet.

I have made the point for decades now, that cops are just human beings, like the rest of us. And they face things the rest of us don't have to. Should I go on an angry rant now, because no one remembers that? And instead they want to rant angrily against me, because they THINK I am ragging on police?


I've said the same things, in several different ways. Because no matter how I say it someone here wants to 'interpret' what I say, to mean something completely different, so they can get their panties all up in a wad, and be angry at me about it.

I can't think of any more ways, or any more simple way to put it.

When the baker makes a mistake, bread gets thrown out.

When a cop makes a mistake, people could die.

Being human is not an excuse. If you can't do the job, don't sign up for it. Everyone else who signed up for it, and is doing a good job of it is just as human as you are.

And good cops should do a lot more policing against bad cops. Bad cops shouldn't be defended by good cops.

Good cops are getting a bum deal. They are getting a bad rap.

There is definitely a bias against cops in the media. That should be dealt with. How, I don't know.

But the stories don't just come out of nowhere.

Bad cops ARE being defended by good cops. If the good cops are worried about their 'rep', they should change the unions in ways that bad cops aren't defended.

Because a BIG part of that bad rap you good cops are getting, comes from the way you close ranks around a bad cop, and defend him. Then demand that we all treat every one of you like gods. Unquestionable, or else we hate you...

There are BAD people in EVERY job known to mankind. Microsoft? Check. Fire Dept? Check. You get the idea. The whole problem is we are dealing with "HUMANS".

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Check.

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I'm not sure how people would react to the knife hand...