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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 18059
Real Name: Chuck
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ly-protest"On August 12, white supremacists and members of the alt-right are planning a Unite the Right 2 rally in Washington, DC, one year after the Charlottesville, Virginia, event that devolved into chaos and violence, leaving one young woman dead and injuring nine others." 
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:13 pm |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6476
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Christ, the world is full of assholes
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:27 pm |
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Motivated
Location: Witch Well, AZ Joined: Tue Feb 5, 2013 Posts: 580
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Unite The Right aka as Soros funded inciters. This is a staged event as it was in Charlottesville.
Fun fact: Antifa was designated a domestic terrorist org months ago.
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:29 pm |
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Rix86
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Location: Shelton Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 Posts: 5860
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No thanks. Can we unite the middle?
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:48 pm |
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quantsuff
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Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3573
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Motivated wrote: Unite The Right aka as Soros funded inciters. This is a staged event as it was in Charlottesville.
Fun fact: Antifa was designated a domestic terrorist org months ago. staged by whom? for what reason? who designated antifa?
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:56 pm |
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3915
Real Name: Sean
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Nazis!
I'm triggered
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:12 pm |
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Motivated
Location: Witch Well, AZ Joined: Tue Feb 5, 2013 Posts: 580
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sportsdad60
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Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8703
Real Name: Brian
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We, as a collective whole, have to figure out how to bring the extreme leftists and the extreme rightie tighties back to the middle. Remember in the Reagan years where negotiation worked between the two parties? You guys are prolly all to young to remember.
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:58 pm |
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quantsuff
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Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3573
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thanks for the follow up, but neither the FBI nor DHS said that. The source in your linked story is "according to documents seen by Politico." That story also says that "US security agencies" also designated white supremacist s as domestic terrorists. help me understand what "connect dots" means? is it a Q anon thing?
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:58 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
Real Name: Johnny 5
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Funny, the Charlottesville guy was supposedly being attacked when he floored it....
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| Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:09 pm |
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O_Kellogg
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Location: Yelm Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2013 Posts: 1413
Real Name: Owen
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sportsdad60 wrote: We, as a collective whole, have to figure out how to bring the extreme leftists and the extreme rightie tighties back to the middle. Better yet, why don't we use/promote a political scale that has less than 100% Gov control? If our poltical scale goes from "100% gov control" to "100% gov control" then everything in the middle is still 100% gov - just different "flavors" of shit. An actual "scale" or "spectrum", where the people have a level of control (as intended) should go from 100% gov to 0%. Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Fascism, etc, being 100% gov, are all Left/Totalitarian. Anarchy on the other end (0% gov) doesn't work very well either. That's why the Framers of the Constitution set up a system where the people partially control the gov. Your true "Middle Ground" would leave the citizens with 50% control of their lives (1000% more than the current state). My $.02
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| Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:25 am |
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RENCORP
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Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 13009
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There are two kinds of people in this country.
A. - reasonable middle of the road people that will listen to any intelligent viewpoint, and then determine what they feel is best for themselves, and their community.
B. - extremely polarized and/ or prejudiced and or fucking bat shit crazy fucktards that make the news, shape media opinion, and belong out on an island in the Pacific where they can go at each other until their problem solves itself.
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michaeldancurtis
Location: Redmond Joined: Tue Aug 7, 2018 Posts: 6
Real Name: Michael Curtis
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If I may, let me give you an example of "in the middle"
Federal level - Gun Issues:
How many of you would listen to the idea of a new system of "background checks" that replaced NFA and the Current background check system with a Highly advanced Blockchain based Ledger, where you don't know much about the purchaser, only the transaction. BUT in order to make a transaction you must first a) Sign up for a wallet, prove you are a citizen, and you are who you are, complete a Background check, and prove that you are not a bad guy. You get a block-chain token. Then you can meet with whomever you want.... dealer, or local dude and buy a Firearm... NFA or not, including a silencer. Some guns could have special classifications that would require special tokens.
Once the transaction happens, you trade the token for the gun, and the liability of the gun transfers with it. The original owner proves that he sold the gun in good faith and the government bears the responsibility for the background check. In the event that a crime was committed, authorities can request that the ledger be checked for that transaction... but transaction are only traceable to weapons, NOT persons. Meaning you don't have databases on individuals, just items. In effect, you can find out who owns a gun, but not what guns a person owns.
If you are wondering, its effectively the same thing now.
In return we dissolve the NFA completely, no taxes... and preemption on these punitive state fees that are meant to prevent the poor from practicing thier constitutional freedoms. We would also want the Wallet to have a token capacity for Concealed carry that is good in all 50 states.
Now to implement something like that you would want to get NRA and the GOA to buy off on it, and at least some level of acceptance from gun-control people. I don't expect much from them, but who knows...
And It would need someone who actually knows guns and block-chain tech... But, I can do that.
State Level - Taxes:
Replace B&O with a Business Revenue Tax
B&O in this state is extremely high for small business, and its meaningless for large corporations. This unduly harms the small business owner, while leaving us with very little state revenue benefits from large corporations.
While democrats love this arrangement, because thier lobbyist and donors pay them to keep it this way, its one of the reasons our gas tax, property tax, sales tax, and other associated fees have not seems to meet the needs of growth in the areas where these major companies operate. If the Corporations want to grow with he state then they need to help the state grow.
Republicans don't like to tax business anywhere, but seldom want to consider the option of shutting down services to business, we need to make sure we can grow our infrastructure to grow our state, so revenue is going to need to happen.
Equally we need to encourage small businesses not punish them, buy reconsidering the way we tax business in this state we would inventive the small business sector, while growing revenue, in particular we would grow revenue from the places where most of the cost is originated.
See these are two examples of middle of the road concepts, both sides find something they like, and something they dislike.... its a compromise.
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 18059
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_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
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Lots of pictures and comments about the violence of last year. None of them about the antifa violence. No comments at all about this years violence. All of which was by antifa. Antifa even attacked each other, and the reporters. Antifa. Just a bunch of assholes looking for a target.
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