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Cops suspended for 'leaking'...public info? WTF?
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
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This is bullshit. So, apparently the son of the mayor of Denver is a POS and cussed out a cop for no reason, after being pulled over for doing 20+over the limit. 2 cops are accused of 'leaking' the body cam footage of the incident, and were suspended.. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/colorado-cops-suspended-for-leaking-video-of-mayors-belligerent-son/Body camera footage is public information, so how the fuck do you suspend a cop for releasing public information? Sounds more like the Denver mayor is pissed the world found out about his POS son.....
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| Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:30 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38379
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Because departments have policies in place on how. Public information is requested and released. These officers, as part of their jobs, follow policy and procedure.
They chose not to, and got suspended, just as they should have.
Now, if there was an active and delayed FOIA request and the cops were tired of the mayor blocking the release, then good job cops. But that wasn’t the case.
You break policy, you get your pee pee slapped. I don’t care who you work for or what your job is, it’s standard.
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| Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:55 pm |
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velillen
Location: Wyoming Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 Posts: 978
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Think it's also important to note they didn't directly leak the footage. Rather the officer with the body can showed it to another officer who then recorded it in a cell phone and shared it.
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| Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:06 pm |
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old11bravo
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Location: Everett Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 Posts: 3420
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Massivedesign wrote: Because departments have policies in place on how. Public information is requested and released. These officers, as part of their jobs, follow policy and procedure.
They chose not to, and got suspended, just as they should have.
Now, if there was an active and delayed FOIA request and the cops were tired of the mayor blocking the release, then good job cops. But that wasn’t the case.
You break policy, you get your pee pee slapped. I don’t care who you work for or what your job is, it’s standard.  All departments are policy driven, particularly with what "is" and "is not" permissible with regards to information sharing. velillen wrote: Think it's also important to note they didn't directly leak the footage. Rather the officer with the body can showed it to another officer who then recorded it in a cell phone and shared it. I still find this method of "leak" highly suspect. I suspect that they either, knew what they were doing or.. the officer with the cell phone is a buddy fucker.
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:26 am |
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PMB
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We like, (expect appreciate?) transparency, but with a few little tweaks to the details of the story, these actions would be considered outrageous violations. I think discipline was appropriate.
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:08 am |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
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Anything a public official does in the course of their duties is public information.
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:10 am |
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TechnoWeenie
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I'm not sure anyone else is appreciating the irony here. I post in support of a cop and everyone else is like 'bad cop; no donut'.. 
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:13 am |
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velillen
Location: Wyoming Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 Posts: 978
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velillen wrote: Think it's also important to note they didn't directly leak the footage. Rather the officer with the body can showed it to another officer who then recorded it in a cell phone and shared it. I still find this method of "leak" highly suspect. I suspect that they either, knew what they were doing or.. the officer with the cell phone is a buddy fucker.[/quote] 100% speculation on my end....but I would venture to say they knew perfectly well what they were doing. But I would also go out on a limb and say they were doing it cause of who the guy was (mayors son) and thought this would just get swept under the rug and they wanted to make sure it was released to the public. The officers leaked the footage back in March when the event occurred. We are just now getting the real body cam footage. The Chief of Police did have a statement from back when the original video was released more or less outlining policy of not releasing video for court cases (guess this was pending or something?)
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:02 am |
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NWGunner
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Or, maybe the officers figured officially releasing it, and taking the hit, was better than the subversive punishments the Mayor would exact over time for nailing his son at all...
That kid's attitude comes from somewhere.
What's odd is, why didn't a cop just get a news org to file a request?
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:45 pm |
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old11bravo
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Anything a public official does in the course of their duties is public information. True statement. Also true that there is a "prescribed method" and an "unethical method" to obtain or disseminate that information...... according to policy. NWGunner wrote: Or, maybe the officers figured officially releasing it, and taking the hit, was better than the subversive punishments the Mayor would exact over time for nailing his son at all...
That kid's attitude comes from somewhere.
What's odd is, why didn't a cop just get a news org to file a request? The officers were not "officially releasing it", and therein was the problem for them. They'd have been better off having a friend or family member submit a public records request and fry the spoiled brat son of the mayor without putting their own jobs in jeopardy.
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:24 pm |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 13412
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old11bravo wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Anything a public official does in the course of their duties is public information. True statement. Also true that there is a "prescribed method" and an "unethical method" to obtain or disseminate that information...... according to policy. NWGunner wrote: Or, maybe the officers figured officially releasing it, and taking the hit, was better than the subversive punishments the Mayor would exact over time for nailing his son at all...
That kid's attitude comes from somewhere.
What's odd is, why didn't a cop just get a news org to file a request? The officers were not "officially releasing it", and therein was the problem for them. They'd have been better off having a friend or family member submit a public records request and fry the spoiled brat son of the mayor without putting their own jobs in jeopardy. Yeah, I didn't phrase that very well, sorry. I just meant that they took the hit directly for releasing it. I incorrectly made it sound like through official channels. I meant what you're saying, hence my last line that said they should have gotten someone to request it via FOIA... Thanks for clarifying my poor wording  (wait, what?)
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:36 pm |
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spaghetti monster
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The only reason this is in the news is because it's the mayor's son. How many people do you think cops come in contact with that behave like that? He's an ass and POS but cussing out the cop is not illegal.
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| Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:34 pm |
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Unicorn
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 Posts: 2397
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Because the law applies to all. That includes when the guy is a shithead. The same laws that cover this footage is the same that cover when the police go to your door and you open with with your kids playing in the background. Assuming this isn't WA where there is no state law to cover it, and everything is public information without any protections for the privacy of people in their own houses. The reason some departments won't use bodycams here. Not until there is a state law protecting the privacy of those who are filmed.
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| Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:10 pm |
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TINCANBANDIT
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TechnoWeenie wrote: I'm not sure anyone else is appreciating the irony here. I post in support of a cop and everyone else is like 'bad cop; no donut'..  you are batting a thousand.... what they should have done was instructed someone not directly connected to the officers or the mayor's office request a FOIA on the footage, then if the mayor's office refused to release it, take appropriate measures.
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| Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:29 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Unicorn wrote: Because the law applies to all. That includes when the guy is a shithead. The same laws that cover this footage is the same that cover when the police go to your door and you open with with your kids playing in the background. Assuming this isn't WA where there is no state law to cover it, and everything is public information without any protections for the privacy of people in their own houses. The reason some departments won't use bodycams here. Not until there is a state law protecting the privacy of those who are filmed. Traffic stop on a public street isn't private. Anything heard by a man standing on the sidewalk listening is free game.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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