Yup.

You read that right...


You're either gonna be ROR, or held until trial...


https://tribunist.com/news/california-becoming-the-first-state-to-eliminate-bail-for-suspects-awaiting-trial/




But, courts have discretion to hold someone until trial, if they deem them a risk..

Hmm...

I wonder..

Why would you want a system where someone could be released within 12 hours, instead of being held for no bail money...

Hmmm.....

No way for someone to be in a jail cell when a federal agency involved in capturing fugitive immigrants comes along after being notified of an arrest...


I wonder....

The bad side note to all this is how many jobs will be lost. There are a huge number of bail bonds companies in California. They will all go out of business. Then add in bounty hunters that go after people that don’t show up for court.

Something out of California I'm actually ok with. Especially when digging in deeper than just a click-bait article headline.

Non-violent misdemeanors with quite a few restrictions. Generalized but pretty much anyone with previous convictions is exempt from this. More for the first timers.

The bail system itself is quite corrupt and needs an overhaul in itself.

True, but unfortunately just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the systematic abuses of the justice system as a tyrannical-for profit, power/money grabbing system.

If the bad guys are ROR and NO bail money was paid to the state/county/town/whatever and they skip their check in date, where does the money come from to pay the bounty hunters to bring them in?

this just put the revolving door of the court system into over-drive.

What is the incentive to show up for court now? Criminals do not respect the system, because justice is no longer swift and sure...this makes things worse.

Total Insanity. Now there is almost no disincentive for property crime.

And yet this is setup for the first offenders more than previously convicted. So not really opening up the revolving door into overdrive anymore than it is. Rather the guy who gets caught pissing in public isn't forced into the bail system. And if someone is deemed a flight risk they can still be held as normal.

Someone pissing on the sidewalk gets a ticket/summons... People can still get ROR...

An illegal alien has a fake ID, he gets caught stealing, knows that ICE won't have time to get him because he'll be out in a couple hours, and has no incentive to show up to court, he just gets another fake ID.....

This law was made because fucking assholes were like 'bail hurts poor people, and minorities are poor, so bail hurts minorities and that's racist!'.... How about you stop committing fucking crimes?

Now, even people that do get caught, get out in 12 hours, as long as they didn't kill someone.

Conversely, this allows people to be held, WITHOUT BAIL, at the whim of the county/state....You can't tell me that won't be abused. A guy with an NRA bumper sticker goes to jail for 4 months until his trial, for defending himself in a bar fight, and found not guilty, whereas the crackhead that stole from a store, beat up a security guard, and was found OD'ed 6 hours later gets brought back with narcan, arrested, and released 12 hours later because they're all 'minor misdemeanors'......

Fuck that...The 8th amendment was put in place for a reason....

But since when does CA care about the constitution?

Isn't ICE federal? CA can't change federal law or federal processes. I don't see that scenario being applicable to this.

Most places enforce some federal laws to some degree or at least cooperate with feds for the safety of the community.

This will result in more Katy Steinles.

They aren't changing federal law, or processes.

They are changing their own process, so that by the time ICE finds out an illegal has been arrested... And comes to pick up the illegal... That illegal is already back out on the street.

Ah i see. Thanks guys

Also, Chief California Justice got angry this week because ICE has shown up and arrested illegal immigrants in court.

If you aren't going to screen them or hold them, nor notify ICE you have them, and now are eliminating bail, what do you expect them to do?

There's no way to screen or remove them.

Ohhhhhh, I get it now....

CA doesn't cooperate with feds. Feds essentially have an inmate list, and go from there. If they're not being held, kinda hard for them to be on a list saying 'we have this guy'...